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Racist stereotyping

Frobisher

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We all know that the type of erotica we enjoy on here - interracial cuckolding - is often full of the most racist stereotypes. The big-cocked, physically superior, aggressive black guy is ingrained in the white and Asian erotic culture. While I find many of these fantasies highly erotic, I am very aware that such stereotyping would be frowned upon in other forms of art. I'd be mortified if any of my black friends knew that I was writing such erotic fiction. In real life, I know full well that we're all pretty much the same.

Some other authors have tried to veer away from the stereotype, but it kinda detracts from the cuckold fantasy if the black guy is portrayed as anything other than strong and aggressive. And of course he always must be well hung.

In my latest story I have tried to add a slightly different dimension. Sure, the black guys fit the stereotype, but the narrator stresses that these guys are not typical. They are black nationalists.

“So you figure Estelle was in on it all the way?” I said

“Figure? Said Benno. “I know for a fact Johnny. That bitch was owned by that fucking nigger before she even met me.”

I raised my eyebrows. It was the second time he had used that term.

“You don’t like that word?” Benno said. “Listen man, most black guys are okay. I have black buddies. But like I said before, the black race also has a racist minority. And I’m telling you man, these guys are some of the meanest fuckers around. I won’t call a regular black guy a nigger, but these bastards, well I allow myself that fucking privilege. It’s about all I got left”.

While a departure from the stereotype can detract from the classic interracial cuckold fantasy, it can't hurt to at least acknowledge that black guys aren't all like that.

 
The same of course applies to the stereotyping of white women. You're not all black cock-hungry sluts, ladies.

(Though a few or you are for sure :)

Better add that the black nationalist scenario was inspired by Lutherian Maid's recent writing. He doesn't post on here any more but has books for sale on Amazon.
 
In my experience the stereotype for the black male is accurate. I will add the thought that it is the very well endowed physically superior black male that seeks out we unsuspecting white female to breed.
 
I still don't understand all this bit about 'breeding.' What makes writers think that white women are dying to be impregnated by black men? Ever hear of just plain old fucking, for fun and pleasure and maybe visual stimulation for some and with birth control and no complications?
 
Frobisher said:
We all know that the type of erotica we enjoy on here - interracial cuckolding - is often full of the most racist stereotypes. The big-cocked, physically superior, aggressive black guy is ingrained in the white and Asian erotic culture. While I find many of these fantasies highly erotic, I am very aware that such stereotyping would be frowned upon in other forms of art. I'd be mortified if any of my black friends knew that I was writing such erotic fiction. In real life, I know full well that we're all pretty much the same.

Some other authors have tried to veer away from the stereotype, but it kinda detracts from the cuckold fantasy if the black guy is portrayed as anything other than strong and aggressive. And of course he always must be well hung.

In my latest story I have tried to add a slightly different dimension. Sure, the black guys fit the stereotype, but the narrator stresses that these guys are not typical. They are black nationalists.

“So you figure Estelle was in on it all the way?” I said

“Figure? Said Benno. “I know for a fact Johnny. That bitch was owned by that fucking nigger before she even met me.”

I raised my eyebrows. It was the second time he had used that term.

“You don’t like that word?” Benno said. “Listen man, most black guys are okay. I have black buddies. But like I said before, the black race also has a racist minority. And I’m telling you man, these guys are some of the meanest fuckers around. I won’t call a regular black guy a nigger, but these bastards, well I allow myself that fucking privilege. It’s about all I got left”.

While a departure from the stereotype can detract from the classic interracial cuckold fantasy, it can't hurt to at least acknowledge that black guys aren't all like that.
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I think the bigger problem (and one I see over and over again in this genre) is black men cast as cartoonish villains: hateful, violent, angry sexual predators who are completely devoid of empathy. I understand the need for aggression from a plot point of view - we need an antagonist in our stories, and its hotter if the black man deliberately ruins the white guy's life. But it's often portrayed as motiveless. It would at least add a bit of depth to these characters to acknowledge that 'hating white people' isn't some kind of psychotic prejudice. If you've been socially, politically and economically oppressed for your whole life, seen the same happen to everyone you love, and know that it's been going on for centuries, you might have a few reasons to feel pissed off. Just acknowledging that there is motive (even if that motive is mere revenge) humanises these characters a bit.
 
EroticWriter said:
I still don't understand all this bit about 'breeding.' What makes writers think that white women are dying to be impregnated by black men? Ever hear of just plain old fucking, for fun and pleasure and maybe visual stimulation for some and with birth control and no complications?
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it's not just writers that think this way.you only have to look at Interracial Porn,any length of time.
and you get the i get the impression a black guy only has to walk down the street and white women can't wait
to fuck them.
 
Barbiebnymph said:
In my experience the stereotype for the black male is accurate. I will add the thought that it is the very well endowed physically superior black male that seeks out we unsuspecting white female to breed.
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where did youn get all this B/S about endowed physically superior black male ?black are not superior.
were all the same .
 
Frobisher said:
We all know that the type of erotica we enjoy on here - interracial cuckolding - is often full of the most racist stereotypes. The big-cocked, physically superior, aggressive black guy is ingrained in the white and Asian erotic culture. While I find many of these fantasies highly erotic, I am very aware that such stereotyping would be frowned upon in other forms of art. I'd be mortified if any of my black friends knew that I was writing such erotic fiction. In real life, I know full well that we're all pretty much the same.

Some other authors have tried to veer away from the stereotype, but it kinda detracts from the cuckold fantasy if the black guy is portrayed as anything other than strong and aggressive. And of course he always must be well hung.

In my latest story I have tried to add a slightly different dimension. Sure, the black guys fit the stereotype, but the narrator stresses that these guys are not typical. They are black nationalists.

“So you figure Estelle was in on it all the way?” I said

“Figure? Said Benno. “I know for a fact Johnny. That bitch was owned by that fucking nigger before she even met me.”

I raised my eyebrows. It was the second time he had used that term.

“You don’t like that word?” Benno said. “Listen man, most black guys are okay. I have black buddies. But like I said before, the black race also has a racist minority. And I’m telling you man, these guys are some of the meanest fuckers around. I won’t call a regular black guy a nigger, but these bastards, well I allow myself that fucking privilege. It’s about all I got left”.

While a departure from the stereotype can detract from the classic interracial cuckold fantasy, it can't hurt to at least acknowledge that black guys aren't all like that.
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I grew up as a working class Londoner, through the 70s, 80s and 90's. More often than not as the minority in the room, with the one identity considered negative, while all other identities something to celebrate and be proud of.

I know refined, rich, privileged black people and weedy, nerdy, bookish black men. I know dirt poor Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese people, and I; as a white man from a council estate in the Irish area of London, who grew up during the Troubles? I've experienced poverty, menacing and unfair police attention and anti English discrimination from authority figures and anti white violence on the streets.

Any ideology that creates simplified, totalising stereotypes, be that ideology right wing or left; is going to be in error enough for it to be a problem. The idea that all black people are physical specimens who commit more crime and take no prisoners, is as erroneous as the current idea in middle class establishment circles, that all white people are privileged softies who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, could never experience similar problems black men experience, yet despite their weediness, are responsible for a terrifying form of murderous oppression which keeps their black, physical, genetic, spiritual and cultural superiors, cowering in fear.

Both right and left, it is all bollox.

Bollox stereotypes based on kernels of truth? Yes. (on average in countries which are majority European and the first to industrialise, the elite are more likely to be white. And on average black men have a tendency to be impressive athletically and physically); but making those steroetypes hard and fast or the way we should judge the individual, will ALWAYS result in a ton of error and injustice. Stereotypes when applied to populations without regard to individuals is always a crappy system.

But fiction geared to satisfy a masochistic sexual fetish, which places black people as superior to white?

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

There are plenty of "historians" and TV and movie directors working hard to flip stereotypes and rewrite history to centre black people and marginalise Europeans in schools and on TV.

A sexy story or two which stereotypes black people as sexual and physical superhuman superiors with moral authority over their snivelling white inferiors? If anything you are adding to the activist cannon which is trying to create equity by centring black and marginalising white through seizing the means of cultural and scientific production.

It's a sexual fantasy, just write about what turns you on.
 
I always enjoyed the legendary Stormbringer's idea that black men might be enhanced somehow, and it was the person with control over that process who decides to enhance black people for their own sociopolitical reasons. That nicely sidesteps the whole issue of any inherent differences, and instead makes it about one person's choice to empower those they find the most deserving.
 
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